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HP Pavilion Dual-Core Desktop
$279.99 + $5 Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

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They seriously wasted that big of a case on a motherboard with a form factor that small?

Strange to see a full-size desktop case with an external, rather than internal, power supply, but great price on a budget machine. You're obviously not going to do any heavy-duty gaming on this machine, but this is a great deal on a light-duty computer, for web-surfing and the like.

I'm not the smartest poster on the internet but why on earth would anyone buy the less powerful one for the same price?

Am I blind or is there no power supply in that case?

wasatchcars wrote:Am I blind or is there no power supply in that case?

It's external. It basically has the same kind of power supply a laptop has.

It has a DVI connection, so does that mean I can run this to my tv and use Windows Media to record shows? Is this enough ram, hard disk space, etc.? Will I be able to record in Hi Def?

KRiderZero wrote:It's external. It basically has the same kind of power supply a laptop has.

I have never seen that on a desktop computer.
I think I will pass on this one.

KRiderZero wrote:They seriously wasted that big of a case on a motherboard with a form factor that small?

This x100. Its like putting a lawnmower engine in a tour bus. Makes no sense. And that power adapter, lol.

Its basically one of those pizza-box netbook computers tossed into a cavernous case. :its a mystery:

Disaster this thing is. Very strange engineering HP has there.

Almost worth it just for the case :P . The small form factor guts (with external power supply to boot!) would be great for a DIY project. In car computer anyone? It looks like the processor heat sink is a passive one too. Can't remember the last time I saw a fanless CPU heat sink.

It is so cute... Why not just buy a phone or a minimal case for that??, it is a micro-ATX MB in a Standard ATX case...

ericshmerick wrote:This x100. Its like putting a lawnmower engine in a tour bus. Makes no sense. And that power adapter, lol.

Disaster this thing is.

Seriously. Who the hell do they have designing these things? It should've been easy to find a better, more material efficient design for the case with just a little effort. This just feels like they gave the job to a random mailboy and he decided to dig out a bunch of cases from an older, discontinued model from the back corner of the warehouse.

I can't even think of a logical price point I'd grab one of these at.

If your looking for a refurbished Netbook motherboard, shoved into a giant case for some unknown reason AND you have money to burn, this is your deal!

Nice reviews at epinion

KRiderZero wrote:It's external. It basically has the same kind of power supply a laptop has.

And it's all of 65 watts. Holy cow! Look, it's a laptop computer in a desktop case!

This should be one whisper quiet computer with passive cooling. Don't expect any sort of gaming performance, but the integrated graphics are better than any Intel integrated graphics. This is like a laptop with the portability of a desktop.

Thanks woot for reminding me how terribly slow the internet was. Just the sound of that dial-up modem sent shivers down my spine. I promise i'll never complain about my internet speed again, Until i miss a Bunnies Ogling Carrots because of my "slow" internet speed.

Remember who terrible it was when somebody would pick up the phone?

What an odd machine. It's basically a $299 special laptop, without the screen.

It should be good enough quality for what it is, but how strange.

(edit, I did not see eco2geek's msg first, he nailed that here first)

IIRC, this is a mini-ITX Pegatron board with no expansions in a mid-tower case (yeah, don't ask why).

The e-300 is pretty anemic, but the e-450 is quite fine for everyday tasks and light gaming. These chipsets are in theory really suited to HTPC stuff like the defunct Element OS, but one of the problems is that the GPU hardware acceleration that makes the APUs so good have (next to) no driver support in *nix stuff. Could make a decent fileserver though...if it had a slot for a RAID card.

edit: I clearly did not look at the images, yes it is the mobo I thought it was.

ahamling27 wrote:This should be one whisper quiet computer with passive cooling.

It's got a case fan mounted in the back, so it's probably not going to be "whisper-quiet".

(Edit) Here's HP's "HP Pavilion p2-1033w Desktop PC Product Specifications" page. (They do good online documentation.)

Note that the CPU is soldered to the motherboard, so you're not going to be able to upgrade it, whether or not you install an internal power supply. Nor is there a slot for a video card, or anything else.

Will this run new Diablo, collectors edition?

I was wondering the same thing, why would anyone pick the lesser model, unless maybe the other was sold out?

bennyfly wrote:Will this run new Diablo, collectors edition?

Ironically, it would probably run it, if at a crawl.

eco2geek wrote:And it's all of 65 watts. Holy cow! Look, it's a laptop computer in a desktop case!

Consider that the CPU is rated at 18W TDP, though.

Picked up a HP refurbished desktop from woot a while back...90 days in the power supply took a crap. Thing wouldn't turn on. Had a local repair guy swap it out, he said the one that came with it was junk.

A client of mine got these without checking with me for an office network. I was not amused.

This is basically a PC case with a netbook inside, and without the benefits of either one. It's not portable, it's not powerful. It has no built-in screen. It has no real PC power supply. The RAM sticks are mismatched (a 1GB and a 2GB, each different manufacturers). It's not upgradeable (no free slots for RAM or anything else). It has only one case fan and no CPU fan.

The keyboard is also very cheap (not the usual Pavilion slim design, but an old plasticy thing), though it does come with the Pavilion mouse. There's also no HDMI nor any other bells/whistles.

This has exactly two benefits over a netbook: Dual-monitor capability and DVD drive.

That's it.

The utter lack of inner hardware makes me nervous about these in the long-term. I say you're better off with a netbook. Choose wisely.

jnottingham13 wrote:Picked up a HP refurbished desktop from woot a while back...90 days in the power supply took a crap. Thing wouldn't turn on. Had a local repair guy swap it out, he said the one that came with it was junk.

Luckily, swapping the PSU on this requires unplugging one wire from the wall and another from the box.

Shinespark wrote:Ironically, it would probably run it, if at a crawl.

ARRGGGHHHH!!!! Too good to be true. Sigh. Any recommended PC's for this. Something I can possibly find here. My dell just wont cut it. My search is pretty limited to about $500, if that.

equazcion wrote:The RAM sticks are mismatched (a 1GB and a 2GB, each different manufacturers).

Pretty sure Zacate doesn't have a dual-channel RAM controller anyway.

bennyfly wrote:ARRGGGHHHH!!!! Too good to be true. Sigh. Any recommended PC's for this. Something I can possibly find here. My dell just wont cut it. My search is pretty limited to about $500, if that.

tho i am very anti HP, woot does often have those quad core hps for around $500

I'm usually a fan of HP, having owned several of them over the years and recommending them to friends and family...

But this particular model is mind-boggling.

Why the huge case? And small form factor motherboard? And the external power supply?

Seems like they just threw extra components they had around the warehouse and created this.

bennyfly wrote:ARRGGGHHHH!!!! Too good to be true. Sigh. Any recommended PC's for this. Something I can possibly find here. My dell just wont cut it. My search is pretty limited to about $500, if that.

If you encounter one of the Llano (A-6/A-8) HPs here, it can Crossfire with a 6600 series Radeon, and the measly 300W PSUs in them are enough to support it (though the on-the box specs would probably recommend 400W-- realistically even under load a 6670 is rarely gonna break 120W). Not the most powerful CPUs. Only 2 levels of cache, most of them are locked though they have turbo core, but enough.

Here is link from HP's website describing the product specifications, breaking down the specifications of each component.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03052631&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c03052631/loc:4&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=5156885#N131

Probably the only good thing about this is that the hard drive has a rotational speed of 7200 RPM, which is nice because usually manufactured computers come with a slower 5400 RPM hard drive.

grimskull89 wrote:
Probably the only good thing about this is that the hard drive has a rotational speed of 7200 RPM, which is nice because usually manufactured computers come with a slower 5400 RPM hard drive.

Not unless you're talking about laptops. And considering the parts they use the difference in performance would be slight, anyway.

Shinespark wrote:Not unless you're talking about laptops.And considering the parts they use the difference in performance would be slight, anyway.

It varies from model to model and company to company. I have noticed lately a lot of the high capacity hard drives they're putting into computers nowadays are usually 5400 RPM, like 1 TB etc.

Well although most wouldn't notice the performance difference, I would. But I build my own computers nowadays.

Shinespark wrote:Not unless you're talking about laptops.

Desktops too. Greater areal density drove spindle speeds back down (more data in less time), and demand for power-efficient computing drove them down further.

5400 rpm is the "fast" option on many standard-level drives today, and odds are the drive's only spinning that fast about as often as you change your toilet paper.

grimskull89 wrote:I'm usually a fan of HP, having owned several of them over the years and recommending them to friends and family...

But this particular model is mind-boggling.

Why the huge case? And small form factor motherboard? And the external power supply?

Seems like they just threw extra components they had around the warehouse and created this.

The case is wasted too, there's no spot on there for upgrades, even if you changed the motherboard. This thing should be ashamed of itself. ): I want one of those Core i5 quad core 10GB RAM PCs they keep putting on moofi.

If it had a HDMI out it would be a nice computer to put in a cabinet for surfing the internet on the TV.

Could this possibly be used in a old outdated VCR case to make a nonchalant theater system?


At least no one would want to steal it.


EDIT: I just noticed it was a refurb...ebay has 1 for $99.

EDIT 2: This laptop has similar specs

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=457&Code=103832U

iiwizrius wrote:The case is wasted too, there's no spot on there for upgrades, even if you changed the motherboard. This thing should be ashamed of itself. ): I want one of those Core i5 quad core 10GB RAM PCs they keep putting on moofi.

HP is usually pretty good about cookie-cutter cases, which usually have the ability to mod them for upgrades at a later point in time and as you said... this one lacks those.

I haven't seen those, but I hardly pay attention to moofi... sometimes I forget its there lol.